First, Keith talks about the van he just purchased, which they named Knut. They then get into a lengthy discussion about the rules of an imaginary world in which a role-playing game takes place and the role of the game-master — if any — in such a game. They compare RPGs to Improv and discuss how limitations versus openness-to-anything are both important. Keith talks about how he and his wife both enjoy costume dramas, and Andy talks about how much he enjoyed the fifth season of Orange Is The New Black. Keith talks a little about shows he thinks little of (Legends of Tomorrow, American Gods, and the new Twin Peaks) and shows he loves (Legion and Fargo).